The 12 Blogs of Christmas: Six. On Being Starstruck

The coat is back!  Yes, I know, big whoop.  (As they said in the Nineties, for about a week.)  A lady took it from the pub thinking it was hers, and returned it a few minutes after I left.  We may draw three conclusions from that data point.  1: it was always most likely going to have been a mistake, most people being honest.  2: yesterday's emotional connections and big reaction now seem even more ridiculous and tiny.  3: I have a coat that might be taken for that of a lady.

Let me take a moment to mention the This Time Next Year Game. We've had loads of entries, but seek loads more, and there are now only six days left in which to enter. The idea is, there's a list of 30 things (mostly fannish ones) in the year to come for you to bet on the outcomes of, so everyone starts from a place of equal ignorance, and this time next year we'll have a winner.

We're still without Laurie Pink today, who's taking the weekend off to gird her loins for the final sprint to the finish next week.  But we once again have new festive music, this time from my old friends Golau Glau, who are making a name for themselves in the electronica community, and have recently also been championed by Warren Ellis. Go here for a free download of their six track Christmas EP The Masque of Bruma, which includes their versions of the Coventry Carol and 'God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen'.  Thank you, GG.

Today I'd like to talk about being starstruck.  This is a word we now only use in what was originally a punning way, because it used to mean having a bad time of it because of the astrological influences on one's life.  'I'm a bit starstruck' used to mean 'I'm having one of those days'.  And for a lot of us it still means that.

When it happens to me, I'm terribly ashamed of it.  I used to get rather flustered around the author Geoff Ryman, because his prose and literary hugeness (and actual hugeness, he's about eight feet tall) are things I aspire to (bit late for me and the actual hugeness).  I think he wondered, at conventions, why I would gabble and run away.  So, and I think this was deliberate on his part, he took me off for a walk around a town where we were at a convention together, and kind of talked me down from my nerves, to the point where we could have a normal conversation.  These days, I think of him as one of the kindest people I know, a good friend.  We've spectacularly lost a TV quiz show together, even.  There's a little of the same effect with me and Justina Robson, only that manifests itself in quite a different way, and is still actually the case.  With Justina, whose work I also admire, I'll be able, initially, to be fine, chatty, sociable.  But gradually, and I think this is because Justina keeps up a bit of a poker face, I wilt before that calm coolness, and start to apologise. For everything I've ever done.  Neil Gaiman, as if so attuned to creating this effect (and, I think, hating that he does so and desiring normality, one of his most endearing traits) that he anticipates it, started talking me down from the moment we met, and so we got to relating in a straightforward way pretty quickly.

But it's very rarely this happens with writers.  (I can hear various others I know going 'I notice he didn't mention me!'.)  I know what being a writer is like, I know where our weaknesses lie, and I know absolutely that whatever writer I'm talking to, they'll have experienced a particular sort of writer wretchedness in their life.

It's bloody actors.

If you've been in any sort of drama or comedy, it seems I'm going to deal with you in a weird way.  And I hate it.  Hattie Hayridge, very down to earth and sweet: slight awkwardness at a party.  Lisa Bowerman, oh come on, I created that character, I know her voice and I write for it, I should feel very comfortable with her: never entirely settled.  Billie Piper, perhaps the nicest person on the face of the Earth: I can't recall a single useful or dignified word that ever came out of my mouth in her company.

I was once hanging out with a brilliant, funny bunch of youngsters, and was then told they were in Hollyoaks, a show I have no knowledge of.  I froze up instantly.  It works on a quantum level!  

It's true that I'm vastly aware of body language, that working out a lot about a person, pretty quickly, is one of only three skills I have in life (the other two being buying apt presents for people and, you know, the writing). Actors project a sort of field that gets in the way of it.  (I knew there was something about those Hollyoaks people.) Writers are looking inward all the time, finding the world there. Actors are looking out, at other people.  And the more experienced they get, the more intense that gets. When I meet an actor, it's like they grab me and start yelling at me.  Having a cup of tea with Colin Baker (charming) made me want to hide under a table.

When I've interacted with casts making my work, such as the young actors of Wavelength or those in Pulse, I've just made myself talk simply and directly to them.  I think maybe the (slight) authority of my position let me do that.  A writer won't, as a rule, be saying anything useful to actors in a TV show, that's the director's job, but if you're going to be doing a long run together (which is why I mention those two cases), actors want to look you in the eye, and ask you questions at lunch, and generally work out if they can trust you.  They have their own weaknesses and doubts, and don't know what the inside of a writer's head is like, and it worries them.  That's natural, and they deserve to have a real person talking back to them.  On my radio plays with Nadia Molinari, such a comfortable, secure atmosphere is built up (those sound-baffling womblike studios) that my nerves are quite defused.  (But still, being asked about lines by Sir Antony Sher... err, I know these meant something when I wrote them...)

I do think setting has a lot to do with this syndrome.  I never really understood myself as being part of the class system until I started visiting BBC Television for the purposes of work.  I'm still not sure where I am on that spectrum now (upper middle, I think), but I do know I rarely felt the same as the people I met there.  I felt wrongly dressed, with the wrong accent.  (Kim Newman calls the way that West Country voices are reserved for the evil and the stupid in British media 'the silence of the wurzels'. But I'm hardly the most wurzel of folk.)  People who sounded like they'd never left Chelsea (or the Chelsea bit of whatever town we were in) would tell me that writing characters who spoke like my Dad was 'patronising'.  Perhaps 'geek' is a class of its own.  But this was all a long time ago.  And I should say that, amongst all that, I also made some life-long friends at the BBC, people who've gone out of their way to make me feel comfortable and try to help me produce my best work.

The worst case scenario for my starstruckness is, of course, Doctor Who.  It's easy enough when you pop down to visit an episode being filmed.  There's almost a routine to that.  You watch a couple of scenes being performed, have lunch with an exec you know, say hello to the actors, off home.  Social gatherings, a bit harder.  David Tennant is very proactive, he'll come up and introduce himself to you. Which makes the person whose hand is being shaken tend to say 'I know who you are.'  (I've always wondered if that's where Russell got that line.) But that's not the usual case.  Cast members are usually great, but you're the one who's going to have to make the effort to get to know them.  I view with awe, and some small jealousy, people like Gary Russell, who every day get to, in a lovely fashion, tell people he grew up being a fan of what to do.

People who are both writers and actors deal, I think, a lot better with this whole business.  I suspect Mark Gatiss (whose work I adore and who is a truly lovely gentleman, but who, despite having been at dinner with him several times, I've never really felt I was talking sensibly too, and so, horribly, tend to run away from) at the very start of his career, decided that he was going to play the part of someone who felt comfortable amongst all these famous people, and so has projected that ever since, and probably now simply is. (Writers who are also actors, directors or producers do seem to prosper in television, not just because of being able to vault over the effect I've described, but mostly because they're in tune with the technical aspects.)

I have on occasion attempted to leap this barrier.  And it's never worked.  At Moffat's party the other night, I wanted to thank my host for a tremendous evening, went over to do so, and discovered Matt Smith right beside him.  (Not just 'Matt', obviously, I'm referring to him by his full name, it's like those fans who kidnap Peter Davison in that comedy sketch.)  So I didn't manage, having shaken Moffat's hand, to turn to Matt and say 'good evening, I don't think we've met, and now I'm on my way home, I'm Paul, and this is my wife, who would love to meet you, and will probably yell at me in a minute if that doesn't happen'.  No.  Instead I make a sort of strangled gurgle, duck out of his eyeline and haul my wife through the exit door as if we're leaping from a plane.

I do think that being able to hold a reasonable conversation with them is how actors decide whether or not you're a professional person.  This must be especially true of those who work in genre stuff, shows which people are fans of.  I think perhaps they look at the person in front of them, and gauge whether that person themselves feels worthy of addressing them in a professional way.  Me thinking that, of course, makes all this a billion times worse.

So what's all this about?  I used to think I just got very nervous dealing with people who had the power to make a big difference to my future, and that's been slightly true of my interactions with a few publishers and editors, but in those cases I tend to get over it relatively quickly.  Part of it is that I've been programmed from a young age to be a Doctor Who fan, but people who are actually bigger fanboys than I am have delighted in their easy interaction with, and creative direction of, that cast.  Some of it is that, when I was much younger, I was horribly arrogant and drunken in TV circles, did some rotten things and made a fool of myself, and those memories have never quite left me.  They make me feel I don't deserve to be there.  Russell Davies once told me that, actually, none of this matters, that it's just about the work, and that's probably true. He would always sigh at my moments of wavering, as if that was something he'd banished from himself, but knew of, and didn't like to see anyone suffering from.  It could be said that some of us geeks aren't the most socially-aware animals (surely not!), but in a purely bookish or just people down the pub crowd, I'm a very social person.  And put me on a stage... well, I've gone onstage with actors, and seen them suddenly work me out.  Oh, right, the one who won't look me in the eye in the green room, but whose volume gets turned up to eleven as soon as there's an audience.  I know actors like that.

Perhaps, horribly, this is about self doubt.  I don't think that's a bad trait in a writer.  You need self doubt to edit yourself, and to agree with others when they edit you.  (You need confidence too, though, in precisely equal measure.)  As Khalil Gibran said, 'a seeker of silences am I, and what treasure have I found in silences that I may dispense with confidence?'  From a certain point of view, it often seems like every step one takes towards being a better writer leads one to believe less in one's own ability.  One of the very best I know (Moffat), once told me he doesn't believe in ability at all, just in hard work.  And that seems very sensible.  That is, after all, something one can control, and I think one can take confidence from having worked as hard as one can.

Because I've thought (yes, internal Russell, too much) about this, it always amazes me when someone gets starstruck around me (yes, it has happened), because how likely is that?  It's lovely for about a moment, and then, and I think everyone reacts the same way to it, one desperately wants to make that person feel as comfortable as possible.  I suspect that, for huge movie stars, the sheer difficulty of that move must be a source of constant sadness.  Can you imagine being very famous and single, for example?  Just where are you going to meet anyone sane with the sheer balls to chat you up?  One of the worst things one can do is to try to anticipate and rule out one's own starstruckness by going straight to matey rudeness.  'It's you, you old hack!'  is utterly acceptable amongst old friends, completely out of the question for strangers.  (And if I've had so many variations on that, can you imagine what it's like for the truly well known?)  Sometimes that approach is a misjudged defence mechanism, sometimes, I think, it's a sort of unconscious protest at being made to feel that way, a declaration that they're as good as you are, damn it.  (Without them understanding that the person they're talking to probably never felt above them in the first place.)  Simple politeness is the best way to deal, I find. 'Hello, enter first name here (not Mr or Mrs or Sir or Ma'am), a pleasure to meet you, I really liked that thing you did, what are you working on at the moment?'  (Nobody is ever arrogant enough to assume you should know.)

So perhaps I should try to hold on to my starstruckness, in some small, internal way... no, if I ever find a way to get rid of it I'll go with that immediately.  I've got a nativity play on Christmas Eve, and I want to be able to look six year old Joseph in the eye.

As always in the 12 Blogs, today we're again featuring a creator telling us what they're going to be up to over the festive season.  Today it's a Ms. Sarah Pinborough, who writes...

'Over Christmas I shall be spending some quiet time alone and reflecting on the year past and the year ahead, and maybe sipping the occasional sherry as I contemplate life, the universe and everything.  And if you believe that then shame on you!  Actually I've got a book deadline on Christmas Eve (Ooooh, those mean publishers) so I'll be working up until then, but Christmas Eve and Christmas Day I shall spend with my parents and sister - there will be a lot of alcohol - we function better as a family unit under the influence. Between Christmas and New Year I shall be visiting friends for various drinks and nibbles arrangements - there will be a lot of alcohol - we function better as friends under the influence.  Then on New Year's Eve I shall be in London somewhere as yet undecided with the new BF - there will be a lot of alcohol - we function better as.... Oh, I'm sure you get the drift.  So, Merry Christmas, everyone.  Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow tentacled aliens may invade the planet and use us for food.  Or something.'

And she included the following image.


Hmm, she's trying to tell us something, but it's a little too subtle for me.

Phew, we're halfway there!  Tomorrow, I'll be doing a Ten Things blog covering several interesting things coming up from friends of mine.  Until then, Cheerio!

22 Response to "The 12 Blogs of Christmas: Six. On Being Starstruck"

  • DarthRedhead Says:

    Love hearing that you get starstruck yourself. It reminded me of our own starstruck experience with you at Phoenix Comicon this past summer. My 12-year old son Nicholas and I had been to your panels, and enjoyed them immensely. We (him especially!) wanted to meet you and say how much we appreciated your work. But alas, every time we made it down to your table in the vendor's room, you were out running amuck.

    Finally, on the last day, the last thing we did was stop at your table, only to find a note that you'd already left. Nicholas was very sad indeed. A short time later, we were at the hotel waiting for our car to be brought 'round, and suddenly you strolled by with an ice cream cone. We had a quick debate as to whether to let you enjoy your ice cream in peace, or whether to bother you and say hi. Obviously, the "MOM-MOM-MOM-OHMYGOSH-MOM-IT'S-PAUL-CORNELL-AND-WE-HAVE-TO-SAY-HI-BECAUSE-HE'S-STANDING-OVER-THERE-RIGHT-BEHIND-US-AND-IT'S-PAUL-CORNELL" won out. Once we approached you, our mouths ran dry and I began to stutter and my son couldn't do anything but grin cheesily. Of course, you were gracious and kind and posed for a picture with Nicholas. He was on air for several hours afterwards, and still talks about meeting you. His fellow Whovian schoolmates are very impressed. :)


  • Marjorie Says:

    I get this too - except that I have really poor facial recognition skills so it can hit me half way through a conversation when I suddenly put 2 + 2 together and start going *urk*.

    (I have to say, you do a pretty good job of defusing this reaction in others, yourself)

    It must be very hard to be constantly on the receiving end.


  • Drew Shiel Says:

    Oh gods yes.

    There is, as yet, only one author who does this to me; early exposure to reasonably famous and wealthy people convinced me they were as human as the rest of us.

    This completely fails to be remembered when I meet China MiƩville. At this point I revert to being about five, and feel like I should hide behind things in case he looks at me. China's a lovely guy; I've interviewed him, had at least one lengthy conversation, and so on, and yet it keeps on happening.


  • Eddie Cochrane Says:

    I share your feeling of being Starstruck, but for me it has just been an extreme form of what I feel to some extent when trying to converse with anyone socially. My reaction is usually to clam up rather than to wibble though.


  • pbristow Says:

    Oh, this rings so true! Thankyou for sharing. (And now I'm wondering just how much of an arse I've made of myself in my attempts to be reasonably normal in your presence, Good Sir. Didn't help that the first time we met I was in the middle of an extended anxiety attack *anyway*, but well, Proud Lion is just down the road and you were going to be RIGHT THERE, and...

    So I suspect my outrageous cheekiness when we next crossed paths at Bristolcon was a case of overcompensation. Or maybe that's just a feeble excuse. Ho hum.

    I have on tape somewhere an interview I conducted with Cliff Richard (before he acquired the "Sir"), for a student radio station. In I bustled with my tape recorder, shook the interviewee's hand, let him lead me to an out-of-the way corner for the recording, checked my levels, and rolled the tape. First question: Clear, confident, no problems at all.

    Cliff's answer is about 2 minutes long. By the end of which time, of course, I've stopped fussing over the tape recorder and trying to memorise the list of questions off of my pad, and actually looked him in the eye, and *taken it all in*...

    The second question is a very stuttering little squeak. Amazing that he made it out all, actually. Or maybe he didn't - the tangentiality of his answer might indicate he was politely giving a stop-gap answer to give me time to re-compose myself. =:o} But it gets gradually better after that.

    Still, having survived an entire two-sentence encounter with Tom Baker (in which I had the audacity to mention God, of all things! How to trigger an instant and forceful diversion of topic from the man...), I'm hopeful I can cope, in at least some sense, with whatever lesser gods may cross my path in future. =:o}


  • Anonymous Says:

    Ah, this is not only interesting and re-assuring, but also very practical. I now have a crib sheet at the ready should there be a possibility of meeting you at SFX: 'Hello, Paul, a pleasure to meet you, I really liked Knight and Squire and your stories in Action Comics as well as your work in Dr Who. What are you working on at the moment?'

    I have only ever approached one famous person, a writer, and i launched straight into my questions about a situation in the story that i hadn't understood. You dealt very well with why the Dr could have been so ticked off with Rose for saving her dad, despite the vast difference in experience and knowledge between them.

    It did immediately occur to me that my approach was rude and impertinent but it was already too late and it seemed ruder to exit stage left having started the conversation!

    Thanks to you i'm now armed with a script for next time. i just need to be sure that you cannot under any circumstances mistake me for an actor. ani


  • Bill Willingham Says:

    I think I go the other way, Paul. I've not yet gotten starstruck in the few times I've met television or movie stars (Johnny Weissmuller did make me cry when I was three, but I don't think that counts. I didn't know about his Tarzan movies at the time and simply found him extremely scary). Actors are too far removed from what I do to be anything but fascinating aliens to me. And somehow that doesn't preclude being relaxed around them.

    But I often (perhaps always) get starstruck around writers. I know it's a product of the very useful self doubt you spoke of, but I also suspect it's because I feel they have the shared experiences to be able to know and judge me and find me wanting. They know I didn't legitimately get into the club, but instead found a way to sneak in through the back door. Oddly enough, this even happens with writers I've helped get into the business. They've grown into something real, with real skills, talents and accomplishments, where I am still hoping to earn my way in someday.

    With writers long established I get positively useless. I was once so panicked and distracted at meeting Orson Scott Card that I accidentally kidnapped him (Years later, at our second meeting, he very graciously forgave me, but I don't know -- there was that look in his eyes...).

    One day I hope to have a completely relaxed conversation with you, and Marjorie, whom I see has posted above, and everyone else in our circle of professional friends and acquaintances, but I can't actually imagine it.


  • Rich Johnston Says:

    I got a lot of starstruckness bashed out of me writing and directing radio ads. I just had to tell these people, these wonderful famous people what to do and say, or it just wouldn't get done.

    Of course, in comics, there's always the possibility someone wants to punch me in the face. And twice in the stomach.

    But whenever I came back from coventions I got emails from people saying they'd seen me and wanted to speak to me and didn't. And this is me, not like an actual in-any-way famous person. So before shows I post stuff like "if you want to say hello, please do, don't leave it to email." And I've never had a bad experience from it. And plenty of good ones.

    Mind you having to phone Alan Moore up about something gave me the shits everytime. I felt like the man from Porlock. What thought did I spoil by calling in the middle of it?


  • Heath Graham Says:

    I have a feeling I burbled uselessly in your presence while getting my Captain Britain trades signed at Worldcon in Melbourne last year.


  • Ian Abrahams Says:

    It's the Jonathan Ross scenario, isn't it? Does Jonathan Ross think 'Bloody Hell... I'm interviewing whoever it is [insert A-lister name]', or does he think 'Hey, I'm Jonathan Ross...'?

    I get close to (or sometimes actually) physically sick with nerves if I have to ring someone for an interview ... Toyah was the worst, violent urging sounds were heard ... and she's lovely to talk to!


  • Marjorie Says:

    Bill, you don't need to worry abput speaking to me,(Unless you get starstruck around high-street solicitors) I'm not a writer!


  • Paul Cornell Says:

    Darth: I'm so pleased you did. I'm always happy to be stopped while eating ice cream. Do say hello to Nicholas for me. (He's probably a surly teenager now.) Marjorie: I once asked Charlotte Church 'so what do you do?' (And she told me, without a moment's ego.) Drew: China's physically intimidating, which doesn't help. But he's really sweet, and makes fun of himself. Eddie: clamming up is, I think, cooler! Bristow: I was once given directions by Tom Baker, and was too shocked that it was him I'd turned round in the street to ask to say anything other than 'thank you'. Anon: I'm going to hear that phrase a lot now, aren't I? And I don't think intelligent questions are ever rude. (Though they're sometimes framed rudely!) Bill: that's a very welcome revelation, because I feel exactly the same way around you. And everyone at Eastercon. You'll have noted I get all singing all dancing in such company, to violently attempt to not be 'that comic guy' sneaking in. Who did you think this Marjorie might be? Mind you, I get nervous around solicitors. Rich: I should have added something about how actors like to be concretely told what to do and where to be, without polite options. I call up Alan sometimes, and he's very lovely, and highly sociable, but yeah, that's still scary. Heath: indeed, I remember it to this today. (No, not really!) Ian: were those urgghing sounds, or were you urging her to do something?


  • Ian Abrahams Says:

    Ha! They were probably urgghing sounds!


  • Marjorie Says:

    Paul; Nervous I can(kind of ) understand. Starstruck not so much :-)
    It's why I don't normally admit to it in social settings

    I was at your Kaffeeklatch at BristolCon - I don't think you sensed it and got nervous.


  • Steve Says:

    The two times I met/had things signed by Neil Gaiman were the worst one for me, I don't think I did anything but laugh too much and ask stupid questions; I'm quite relieved that whenever I've met other people I haven't dissolved into a giggling, inane blob that then runs away, very quickly.

    I do have a friend who loves Mike Carey so much that her instant reaction is to try and hug him: I'm not sure who runs away from who in that situation (also I must admit that it was very strange to catch the same train as him coming back from FantasyCon and to have my wife point and mouth to me on the Tube from Victoria to Euston that Mike was standing right behind me - I have absolutely no idea why, but it felt almost like I was unintentionally stalking him).


  • Tony Lee Says:

    By brother in law was too star-stuck by you to talk to you.

    At our wedding.

    At which he was the gobby Master of Ceremonies....


  • Bill Willingham Says:

    Oops, wrong Marjorie. Well, no of course you're not the wrong Marjorie. You're quite right to be the very Marjorie you are. But you're not the one I thought you were. I assumed it was Marjorie Liu who posted. My embarrassment is vast.


  • Paul Cornell Says:

    Steve: my instant reaction to Mike Carey is also to try and hug him. I think he's just very huggable. 'He's behind me, isn't he?' Tony: aww!


  • Andrew Lawston Says:

    I'm usually OK with writers and actors, unless they're Nick Courtney (every time I met him, I saluted. It was Pavlovian and humiliating). I was quite starstruck around Nicola Bryant, but that faded around the moment she started shouting something about Brian Blessed's sperm.

    I think because I do a bit of acting, and a lot of writing, it's given me the confidence to view writers and actors as people who do what I do on a greatly superior scale, rather than people who are from a completely different Universe.

    Having said that, put me next to a rock star and watch my vague articulacy melt away. I bumped into Richard Ashcroft in the pub this year, and only the fact that Roger McGough was laughing at me from his corner restored the power of speech to the point where we were able to have a crushingly awkward 20 seconds of conversation until I could run back to my pint. There's a photo of me standing next to the Manics' Sean Moore looking utterly terrified.


  • Paul Cornell Says:

    I didn't even consider musicians. There are quite a few I'd have trouble talking to, I think. And cricketers, though I did okay in my brief chat with Sir Viv Richards.


  • Emma Newman Says:

    Loved reading this, it brought back fond memories of our chat in the bar at Bristolcon. Nice to see I'm not the only one who suffers from the China effect. I almost typed in China Syndrome then, but caught myself just in time.

    And hooray for the coat return!


  • Paul Cornell Says:

    I think we should call being starstruck 'the China syndrome'.